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I'm not saying I don't think he's guilty, I think it will be nigh on impossible to prove anything now anyway, which is why the reaction in the media makes me uncomfortable. I find it hard to believe, however, that this guy was a serial peadophilic abuser of over 300 women (if the headlines today are true) and it wasn't brought to the attention of the authorities sooner and with more severity. He can't be bought to justice and I struggle to see what all of these accusers want to gain now. I'm not condoning his actions (assuming they're true) and I think if he did this stuff it's abhorrent and I would certainly hate to think it could happen to a member of my own family.


I take your point, and to an extent I agree with it, but I imagine what his alleged victims want is simply an acknowledgement that this happened and that it wasn't their fault. So many victims of abuse of all forms go through life believing that they're somehow to blame for it, and if this helps some of them get over that, then good luck to them.

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We've strayed off the topic of restored 2cvs a little, haven't we? :lol:

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I think we should remember the saying "the past is like a foreign country, they do things differently there"

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October 13th, 2012, 8:09 pm
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We've strayed off the topic of restored 2cvs a little, haven't we? :lol:


just a bit.

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October 13th, 2012, 8:14 pm
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as i understand it no one can bring a case against him now he is dead but by bringing a civil case against his estate for compensation gets it in to court and justice can be seen to have been done - even if the "compensation" was 50p it means it had been proven beyond reasonable doubt that the things he is being accused of happened

BBC and the health authorities are the ones that must be in full on panic

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October 13th, 2012, 8:22 pm
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Rhythm Thief wrote:
We've strayed off the topic of restored 2cvs a little, haven't we? :lol:


I don't like prof(its) company(s) who restore 2cv's anyway, sorry

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October 13th, 2012, 8:47 pm
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Whilst 2CVxxxx and other "restorers" might not be widely liked, there are lots of people out there who have either no mechanical experience or aptitude who love our humble A series and need the services they provide.
If the naysayers feel so strongly about it they should start up their own not for profit businesses and see how long they last !

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October 13th, 2012, 9:32 pm
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This week's Private Eye has a list of Jimmy Saville's programmes, which includes "Jim'll F**k It", a programme in which teenagers make Jimmy Saville's dreams come true. :lol:

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......If he had done what he did to vulnerable young women and children - and even the most vulnerable of the vulnerable, then used his untouchable nigh on living sainthood status to bear on anyone who made any accusations ( and he had paid not inconsiderable amounts of his money to do so as well as threatening to withdraw his charity work), only now is there any way to find a voice. All it took was a few to start for the rest of the victims, who were either shamed in to silence or were trying to move on with their lives to add their voice to add credibility to the stories of the brave few.
I don't think the victims are coming forward as a means to sell a story to the papers to make some money - there may well be some that jump on the bandwagon but there will be many more victims who have bureid the shame and guilt, who are married, are mothers and grandmothers and really do not wish that part of their past to be known.

How would you feel if it were your daughter that had been interfered with while in hospital - would you bring the story to light just to make a buck? i'd wager you would want the sick b brought to justice - even if he had inconveniently died in the meantime.


Good point well made, Sean. I must admit I hadn't thought of it along those lines.



............and, yes, we're not massively off topic aren't we lol!


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