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yer i know a gucked engine can be fucked at 140k or 1k just saying ;)
it was the usual little old lady who i bought the car off, although it was genuinly hers from new..
what do you mean its a shortcut to a fucked engine? as in having naff timing, i shall get on to it over the weekend after ive understood fully how to do it

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October 19th, 2010, 10:29 pm
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Sean wrote:
doesnt sound the most scientific :?
Jameswallace wrote:
put it back, and put it in the same position, ran it, had a little fiddle, and said he was happy,


what you need to do is follow haynes and peg the flywheel

set the gap first

take both leads off the coil and connect the lamp between them

peg in the flywheel and mark a line or a tooth on the flywheel and one just on the upper left stud of the bell housing so you can see when the two lines meet again use tippex pen or a whith touch up pen

then with marks aligned turn the points box till the light just goes out, turn the engine a full turn and watch the marks and the light it should go out again when the marks line up.

if you find the light goes out before your marks lign up its too advanced if, after its retarded

now youll probably find that when timed perfectly to the peg the engine pinks, runs on and gets hot, thats because modern petrol is not what it used to be( and the points and advance are worn)

time it so the light goes out at the tooth after your paint mark and run it for a bit looking out for running on or crackling noises from the fan when you select 4th at 40mph and floor it

any of the above then set points to 1 1/2 tooth etc etc

as the camshaft which tuns the points operates at 1/2 crank speed when your mate marked the points 1 degree error of the points box= 2 degrees of timing error
and that may have been enough to over advance it. plus you see the plastic bit thats pushed by the cam? that wears quite quickly in the first few hundred miles as it beds in to the cam as it wears it closes the gap and effectivley advances the ignition.

take time and learn to set your own points using the bulb and listening to what your engine does before you spend any more of your mums money on confusing stuff like a strobe ;)

Sean


right reading that, it is very very helpful, bell hosuign though, which bit is that? (not familior with some a series terms :roll: ) and probably that will be answered, but where do i start the mark, when the light comes on or random? thats the only bit im confused about, and pegging, do you mean from the points box all the way through or have i missed the concept? going to run out and get the haynes manual out of car and have a good read again,
right so ive now read it, and its got me even more confused, where am ishoving this 6mm rod thing that doesnt exist yet?! what i dont understand, is what i connect the light to also, i earth it on something, and then dis connect the live fead to the coil?! how ido i rotate the engine with the fan off, is the fly wheel fairly easy to move? too confused!

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October 19th, 2010, 10:39 pm
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right sorry to post again, 3rd post, and secondly sorry to alkie for total hijack of this thread, however, i think its start to come clear in my fuzzy brain,
so i put a rod (looking like my cornish flag, sorry neil, the stick on it is perfect) through some hole, not sure where, but certainly a hole on the car... and then when that lines up on the fly wheel thats the firing point on the engine, so i mark it on the fly wheel and on starter or something for reference later on, i then connect a lamp (this is the bit im un certain about) between the points box feed and an earth... or what?? both? the live? and put the ignition on, ive obviously removed the ht leads by this time, and i turn the engine over and find when the light is lighting up, and see how much it is out, i then turn the engine back so its 1 tooh after the mark where i marked, and adjust the points box so the light is on then, and then it should go out at the next tooth, and walla, timing set??? or am i still way off

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October 19th, 2010, 11:05 pm
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HAYNES!

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October 19th, 2010, 11:17 pm
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its on my lap and ive been reading it and readint it again but its really not that clear to me, where do i stick this rod and dont say up my arse!
the bit that i dont get, do i dis connect the wire goign to the points box or have it connected and the test lamp also, it is coming more clear though

drawn little diagrams in haynes and all

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October 19th, 2010, 11:19 pm
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up yer ah! you pre empted that one

theres a hole in rhs belhousing engine bit that when you push in a 6mm rod( and it should be 6mm) and you turn the flywheel the rod drops into a hole in the flywheel and the engine is locked at 8degrees BTDC and that is the static timing point

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October 19th, 2010, 11:24 pm
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righty oh so at that point, in theroy the light should be on, thats when i mark it, so i know where firing point is, i then connect up light etc, find where its sparking, and compre the two and adjust it so its 1 tooth after the mark, could i put the nut for the fan bolt back in and turn it with a socket, and its clockwise the engine fan rotates when the engine is running isnt it? just so i dont do it all back to front, im goign to do the points while im there (but before i do timing!!!!) no blonde moments there, and the points should just be starting to dis engage one tooth after or firmly open (bulb lit) think ive got ya, right the cornish flag will have to do i dont have a 6mm rod, what sort of house hold objects work? house is full of crap, so suggestions please :D

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October 19th, 2010, 11:29 pm
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Jameswallace wrote:
6mm rod, what sort of house hold objects work? house is full of crap, so suggestions please :D


Aluminium tent peg, 6mm drill, 6" nail etc

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October 19th, 2010, 11:35 pm
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ah yes good thinking, plenty of nails, and things, good man :D

shall tackle over the weekend, just to confirm, bulb earthed, and other on the poitns feed box :roll:

shall report back saturday evening (having ago after work) with most likely more problems, but we will see!!

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no take both leads off the coil and put bulb between them

or multimeter?

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