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 Joolz's Red One 
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Thanks, but nothing there that I hadn't already thought of. When I asked how much longer the 5sp is, I meant the housing on the back. I could lift the back of the box over the axle, but I've heard several people say it causes oil starvation problems, although it may not be such a big problem for me as my engine sits quite high already, because of the deep sump.
And sorry to disappoint Russ, but if I did move the axle back it would only be by a couple of centimeters so the tie-rods and shocks would be fine and the wheel position would be compensated by the turned arms moving them forward.

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May 26th, 2010, 7:08 pm
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Im in the proccess of fitting an air head BMW to my 2cv with an adapter I bought off the pembleton chap to an LNA box .I am currious about the clutch you use. I saw the clutch plate at the pyrenees rally last year off the BMW powered pembleton , the rivits had elongated their holes before snapping .. Some 2cv driven plates have their circle of rivits closer to the center than others I would heave thought the larger the rivit diameter the better . what route have you gone to save me time ..Every time I came to see you at the french rally I missed you :cry:


May 26th, 2010, 7:23 pm
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I did mention back on page 7 that I contacted the pembleton guy, and although he was helpful he didn't want to sell me one of his adaptor kits. My car's currently fitted with a bog standard 2cv clutch, probably a valeo, it wasn't even new when I fitted it and came with the flywheel. I did consider uprating it somehow, but couldn't find anything off the shelf, so rather than plan for every eventuality, I thought, sod it, I'll change it if it breaks. There's a pic back on page 7.

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joolz & kevin,
maybe best to leave the clutch 'as is', so that the weak link in the drive train is the driven plate, not the gearbox? :lol:

These are much easier to get hold of than certain boxes of cogs...
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As usual he makes a good point, although at the moment it's the tyres that are acting as the weakest link. However if I swap to some 145s I may find the clutches limit.

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Joolz wrote:
As usual he makes a good point, although at the moment it's the tyres that are acting as the weakest link. However if I swap to some 145s I may find the clutches limit.


Having had 145s (Michs, Firestones) on two-pots before, I'd have thought you could go a long way north of 145s before you move the "fuse" up the drivetrain.

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May 27th, 2010, 8:09 am
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If G boxes are the same, 5 speed being the extra length tacked on the back and it looks like the BMW is roughly the power and torque as citroen flat 4 engines and as I have GSA shafts I dont want a built in unpredictable whens it going to break weak link . Does any one know what clutches the racing boys use ?


May 27th, 2010, 6:18 pm
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notsmartcar wrote:
it looks like the BMW is roughly the power and torque as citroen flat 4 engines


A chunk more power, I'd have thought. The flat fours are 55-65bhp and 52-72lbft torque.

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Ami Super, I presume? G shafts would require your wheels to be moved outboard by several inches...

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May 27th, 2010, 7:25 pm
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Shafts were off a GSA .I fitted a 4 speed G box 1300cc in a Dyane 16 years ago using similar shafts, no problems


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Is there some differences between G series shafts? Timmy changes driveshafts every fuel stop, but I had Spanners 1299cc Dyane, which I drove like a complete twat for several months, and never had any problems...

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