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Tripyrenees
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Joined: December 17th, 2012, 10:03 pm Posts: 966 Location: Luscan, Pyrenees, FRANCE
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 Re: 1955 Traction Avant 11cv
subarupete wrote: Hope it wont be to clean and tidy to drive  That is one thing that annoys me with most Tractionistes - they only use the car in the summer on special weekends. I plan to get this totally smart on the inside, underside and the under the bonnet. But for the first year at least, it is going to be beaten up and tatty on the outside. Just so we can have some fun going to the shops and messing about in. We drive all our little old cars (except for my 4L which is poorly at the moment)
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December 6th, 2014, 5:00 pm |
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Jacqueslemac
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Joined: February 8th, 2009, 7:56 pm Posts: 197 Location: Norfolk and Normandy
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 Re: 1955 Traction Avant 11cv
When I was wiring my place in France we used miles of conduit and then threaded the wires through it, so they couldn't go astray. Mindy you, that's a lot easier when you're talking about brand new plasterboard walls.
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December 6th, 2014, 5:47 pm |
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Tripyrenees
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Joined: December 17th, 2012, 10:03 pm Posts: 966 Location: Luscan, Pyrenees, FRANCE
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 Re: 1955 Traction Avant 11cv
Yup, same, I rewired the whole house to French spec. But 10 years on we need to change the layout so threading through twin and earth instead just on one wall. The conduit took a long time to thread when we did it, then found out you can buy it pre threaded 
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December 6th, 2014, 5:57 pm |
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Tripyrenees
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Joined: December 17th, 2012, 10:03 pm Posts: 966 Location: Luscan, Pyrenees, FRANCE
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 Re: 1955 Traction Avant 11cv
I had a second go at installing the pistons. This time I used a trick from an oldie French guy who said toe use some cutting paste (same as you use on the valves/seats) to mate up the edges of the piston sleeves with the crankcase. This seemed to work quite well. But on measuring the height above the top surface I am still a bit low so I have ordered some thicker gaskets - my current ones that came with the gasket kit are 0.02 so I have some 0.07 on order. So this job will have to wait..... again. Attachment:
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Onto my oil pump - now this was disgusting as it had sat in a mixture of oil and water for the past 46 years. Hence the filter mesh is rusted out and the upper filter hood and upper cover are corroded so have ordered new. The rest of the pump looks in good order so I stripped cleaned and rebuilt with new gaskets. Attachment:
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Onto removing the rusty old coolant tube inside the head. What a ridiculous design this is. A job I was not looking forward to at all. This is the tube that runs from end to end within the head and distributes coolant through 4 little holes. One end is open to the water pump and the other butts up against a core plug. So first things first was removing the core plug. I watched a dozen tutorials on You Tube showing how easy it was. All of them were on big US engines where the core plugs are the size of dinner plates. Mine ate 25mm and 30mm. It took some hammering, heat and a lot of swearing but I got the end one out. I then had to take the top core plug out to dismantle bit by bit the rusted tube. I used a metal down rod to tap out the remnants of the tube and pulled the pieces out where I could with pliers. What a crappy job but all done with 4 core plugs to replace. Here you can see the rusted tube inside the head, it was like this all the way along. Attachment:
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Here is the tube and the core plugs, the way they ended up  Attachment:
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Have ordered new core plugs and a new tube. I then went onto clean the outside of the head and paint it the normal green. Day off tomorrow so leave it all to dry before rebuilding the head and then climbing underneath the car to finish off the floor.
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December 8th, 2014, 8:12 pm |
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AZL57
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Joined: October 22nd, 2014, 10:59 pm Posts: 2215 Location: South-Limburg
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 Re: 1955 Traction Avant 11cv
The placement of this tube and the direction and position of the holes in it are very important. If placed wrong it can give problems in cooling with blown head gaskets as a result.
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December 8th, 2014, 11:34 pm |
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Jono
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Joined: December 8th, 2008, 5:58 pm Posts: 1404 Location: Near Matlock, Derbyshire
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 Re: 1955 Traction Avant 11cv
What worries me about this project, Ian, is what are you going to do NEXT winter? You're going to be very bored...unless you get hold of another project over the summer!
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December 9th, 2014, 11:37 am |
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Tripyrenees
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Joined: December 17th, 2012, 10:03 pm Posts: 966 Location: Luscan, Pyrenees, FRANCE
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 Re: 1955 Traction Avant 11cv
I can't let this one drag out that long  Maybe a 4CV next winter if I sell my Dyane and a couple of my road bikes.
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December 9th, 2014, 12:25 pm |
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Jono
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Joined: December 8th, 2008, 5:58 pm Posts: 1404 Location: Near Matlock, Derbyshire
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Or I could just bring one of mine down and leave it with you over winter. Wouldn't want to see you getting bored 
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December 9th, 2014, 2:28 pm |
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Tripyrenees
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Joined: December 17th, 2012, 10:03 pm Posts: 966 Location: Luscan, Pyrenees, FRANCE
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 Re: 1955 Traction Avant 11cv
Maybe a daft questions..... or not Traction radiator is mounted up front with the fan placed to the rear (operated from the end of the water pump). So air flows into the radiator and but also blown forward from the fan (or is is sucked?? ) So my question is, I would like to put on an electric fan pinned onto the from of the radiator (nearest the grill) Can I keep the original fan blowing two or will both fans conflict with each other. 
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December 10th, 2014, 1:11 pm |
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lpgo
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Joined: November 8th, 2009, 5:42 pm Posts: 2847 Location: NL
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 Re: 1955 Traction Avant 11cv
In my world the orginal fan (of a Traction) is mounted after the radiator and it sucks So you can mount an electric fan infront of the radiator which blows. This is very common done (even the DS with injection has this) so it doesn't bite each other.. Tripyrenees wrote: Maybe a daft questions..... or not Traction radiator is mounted up front with the fan placed to the rear (operated from the end of the water pump). So air flows into the radiator and but also blown forward from the fan (or is is sucked?? ) So my question is, I would like to put on an electric fan pinned onto the from of the radiator (nearest the grill) Can I keep the original fan blowing two or will both fans conflict with each other. 
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