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Author:  2CViking [ March 11th, 2011, 11:30 am ]
Post subject:  Sparkplug- insert or helicoil

Used both but what have you used and did it last?

Author:  twofifty AZU [ March 11th, 2011, 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sparkplug- insert or helicoil

Helicoil, I've found the Snap On style inserts come out with the first spark plug change.

Author:  2CViking [ March 11th, 2011, 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sparkplug- insert or helicoil

twofifty AZU wrote:
Helicoil, I've found the Snap On style inserts come out with the first spark plug change.


With or without nut-lock?

Author:  602 [ March 11th, 2011, 4:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sparkplug- insert or helicoil

Change the cylinder head, you know it makes sense in the long run.

Author:  Joe [ March 11th, 2011, 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sparkplug- insert or helicoil

One of my cylinders has a threaded insert. no problems with it since it had been done. but i have not been there when during spark plug changes so im not sure what would be better.

Author:  2CViking [ March 11th, 2011, 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sparkplug- insert or helicoil

602 wrote:
Change the cylinder head, you know it makes sense in the long run.


No I'm not a parts exchanger, I'm a repairer :mrgreen:

Author:  twofifty AZU [ March 11th, 2011, 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sparkplug- insert or helicoil

2CViking wrote:
twofifty AZU wrote:
Helicoil, I've found the Snap On style inserts come out with the first spark plug change.


With or without nut-lock?


As in loctite? You don't use loctite with a helicoil.

Author:  4x4 SuperFinn [ March 11th, 2011, 5:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sparkplug- insert or helicoil

GSA plug with the longer threaded part?

Just dont wind it in too far...

Author:  toomany2cvs [ March 11th, 2011, 6:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sparkplug- insert or helicoil

twofifty AZU wrote:
2CViking wrote:
twofifty AZU wrote:
Helicoil, I've found the Snap On style inserts come out with the first spark plug change.


With or without nut-lock?


As in loctite? You don't use loctite with a helicoil.


No, but you may well do with an insert.

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Author:  ken [ March 11th, 2011, 7:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sparkplug- insert or helicoil

Viking,
I've used KD inserts a long time back, but even with the correct ( high temperature?) thread locking compound, they had a habit of coming out with the plug. :(
< http://www.mytoolstore.com/kd/kdengi11.html >

After that, the local motor cycle shop would fit Timeserts, but only if the head was removed from the engine.
< http://www.timesert.com/html/mtrcsert.html >

Those were very good, however the bike shop closed down so I started using Helicoils and have never had a problem with one I've fitted.
At Kelso, even though I wasn't connected with the 'on site' garage, they ran out of Helicoils and 'borrowed' more than a few of the supply of spark plug Helicoils I happened to be carrying with me.

Paul,
interesting that you should advise changing the head, since a time served engineer I know would fit helicoils in the heads of any engines he was building, as a matter of course.
Not just the plug threads, but the M7 threads on both the oil feeds and inlet manifolds as well...

ken.

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