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meshking
Firing on two.
Joined: December 28th, 2008, 9:11 pm Posts: 388
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 rebuilt engine problem
Finally got the car running today, some crap in the carb had blocked a jet. Once carb cleaner had done it's job (I sprayed it in at 4pm) it burst into life. Quite a shock, since I wasn't expecting it to start. Anyway, it makes a real racket when running. This engine has had new pistons and rings, feels smooth, revs quite nicely (although it feels tight, which is to be expected I guess), but is very noisy. Mixed in with some noisy tappets is a scraping noise, like metal on metal? I can't see anything that could be rubbing externally, presumably there's no way that the engine would turn over if I hadn't got the rings in properly ? I thought I'd give the tappets a check and torque the headbolts. Trouble is, either the headnut wouldn't tighten or my torque wrench is faulty. It felt like I had some resistance, but nowhere near enough. I backed off one head nut, and found this:  Looks like I've pretty much knackered the washer... all the headnuts were the same, some resistance but never tightening up. Any ideas? Thanks, Ben
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September 10th, 2010, 10:07 pm |
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ken
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Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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 Re: rebuilt engine problem
Ben, are you sure you've got all of the cylinder head studs wound into the crankcase good and tight?
It's normal for the brass washers to look rather 'second hand' after the head nuts have been properly torqued down.
Almost forgot, maybe try removing the plugs then winding the engine over with the handle to listen for unusual noises?
ken
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September 10th, 2010, 10:27 pm |
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meshking
Firing on two.
Joined: December 28th, 2008, 9:11 pm Posts: 388
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 Re: rebuilt engine problem
Thanks Ken,
Hmm - no, I'm not sure at all. Is two nuts locked together the order of the day then?
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September 10th, 2010, 10:30 pm |
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ken
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Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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 Re: rebuilt engine problem
Yep, standard M8 x 1.25 pitch, iirc. ken meshking wrote: Thanks Ken,
Hmm - no, I'm not sure at all. Is two nuts locked together the order of the day then?
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September 10th, 2010, 10:41 pm |
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Xmas
Firing on two.
Joined: September 6th, 2009, 12:56 am Posts: 467 Location: Oxfordshire
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 Re: rebuilt engine problem
Check the plugs are the right type, that was my own massive facepalm moment following rebuild very loud tapping noise
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September 10th, 2010, 10:59 pm |
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J-dub
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Joined: April 24th, 2010, 10:01 am Posts: 5733 Location: Location Location
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 Re: rebuilt engine problem
just read your post, the plugs should be b6hs, the ones you put in where b6eas? i was told sometime ago, cant remeber by who that the h is the length?
anyway hope you get the problem sorted
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September 10th, 2010, 11:13 pm |
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Sean
Firing on two.
Joined: April 22nd, 2009, 11:06 pm Posts: 3684 Location: Ecosse
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 Re: rebuilt engine problem
Scrapey noises on turning over ....its worth looking at the rear of the engine cowling to see if they have touched the flywheel
b7hs plugs
and id agree with ken, 2 nuts on the head studs and tighten down fully before you start
the head nut looks rather mashed make sure its not been dammaged internally before you have another go with the torque wrench.
Sean
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September 11th, 2010, 10:12 am |
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Russell
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Joined: November 29th, 2008, 10:05 pm Posts: 9259 Location: West Sussex, U.K.
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 Re: rebuilt engine problem
Scraping metal to metal sound when running is usually flywheel touching the captive nut things on the cowlings, like Sean says.
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September 11th, 2010, 10:23 am |
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meshking
Firing on two.
Joined: December 28th, 2008, 9:11 pm Posts: 388
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 Re: rebuilt engine problem
cheers chaps.
Just checked, and there is indeed a captive nut hitting the flywheel, or at least about 1mm away from it. I thought I had fixed that when I put the tinware back on, but I guess it slipped back when I fitted the manifold. I'll fix that when I'm torquing the heads.
Ben
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September 11th, 2010, 12:07 pm |
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ken
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Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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 Re: rebuilt engine problem
Ben, looking at that picture again, I wonder if the socket you're using is deep enough?
A standard 12mm socket won't usually do the job as there's not enough engagement with the hexagon, especially if the socket's a 12 point type...
ken.
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September 11th, 2010, 12:23 pm |
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