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Neil wrote:
but doesn't that repair in the last photo' need to be seam welded?


For the MOT here, yes.

It'd be OK to just replace the belt reinforcement with spot/stitch welds, or the entire inner wing, but if you're just replacing some of the inner wing, it's gotta be seam welded.

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m3x0c000002.htm
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Acceptable methods of repair
It is essential that repairs to corroded or damaged areas are properly carried out. This requires that suitable materials of appropriate gauge or thickness are used for repairs. Additionally:
- Any plating or welding extends to a sound part of a load bearing member.
- the repair must appear to be virtually as strong as the original structure with only continuous seam welding being acceptable for patch repairs (even if the patch extends beyond the prescribed area).
- spot welded joints are acceptable where the original panel has been replaced to an existing spot welded flange (provided the original defective panel flange has been removed). Stitch or plug welding is acceptable as an alternative to spot welding in these cases.

(My italics)

The CT'll almost certainly be fine with that, though.
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February 12th, 2010, 7:08 pm
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Not an problem in France what I do, same for Australia, never been noted with the 2cv's that has been through inspection.
But good to know if I would do an UK car one day.

Technically it is strong enough to hold a person in the seat belt in case of an accident. The welding spots will not let go.

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2CViking wrote:
Neil wrote:
I know next to nothing about welding, so please forgive me if this a n00b question; but doesn't that repair in the last photo' need to be seam welded? Also, when chopping the sills out for replacement, shouldn't the body shell be braced to keep it's shape?



Sorry Neil, don't know what ''seam welded'' is? It seams alright to me :mrgreen:

The seat belt and bumper plates are spot welded from the factory, so is the inner mudguard.

When I remove floors, sills and corner posts, I always fit both doors before welding to make sure that nothing saggs and that everything fits nicely. I hate doors that can't open and close properly. At the same time I use a jack to lift the body so the pedal floor is straight.



When I've done 2cvs I usually weld a brace between the door pillars so the doors can still be fitted and diagonally between them so nothing can move. Usually just fit the doors to make sure all is well.

Whatever works for you though!

A seam weld is a continuos unbroken weld as opposed to stitches of weld with gaps between them. I wouldn't think the seatbelt bolt panel would have to be seam welded if you're welding it to a new inner wing (in the uk) because you're replacing a whole panel as original, not repairing a panel with a patch.

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February 12th, 2010, 7:54 pm
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What about when you change part of an A or C posts...

I always insert proper size-diameter of metal tube so the weld around post cant crack .

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Nearly home. It's fun watching paint dry, can't touch the 2CV but springlike temp are here + 10 :lol:

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Great....Snow here :cry:

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Great, all done. Ready for her new adventure down under. Container coming soon. ;)

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Russell wrote:

A seam weld is a continuos unbroken weld as opposed to stitches of weld with gaps between them. I wouldn't think the seatbelt bolt panel would have to be seam welded if you're welding it to a new inner wing (in the uk) because you're replacing a whole panel as original, not repairing a panel with a patch.

Just to put it another way - a whole replacement panel can be plug/stitch welded in place of spot welding but it needs at least the same amount of replacement welds as there were spot welds.

Any part/fabricated panel needs to be continuously welded. Is that right?

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Great, all done. Ready for her new adventure down under. Container coming soon. ;)

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Great work! How long before it touches down in it's new home down under? Be great if the new owner came on here and told us of it's future adventures.

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Russell wrote:
Great work! How long before it touches down in it's new home down under? Be great if the new owner came on here and told us of it's future adventures.

Yeah! That would be great.... Following the story of a car that moves from one continent to another :)

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