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Tim2cv
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Joined: December 8th, 2008, 4:08 pm Posts: 806 Location: Burton-upon-Trent
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 helicoil spark plug hole
I have been sorting out cylinder heads from in my shed and they are all slightly duff in some way. One has been helicoiled and it looks rubbish/bad job... looks like the thread has split in two?!  picture from inside head... is it recommended to helicoil plug holes? if so what size are they and would it be recommended to try and fix this one again!?
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November 22nd, 2010, 5:19 pm |
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Firing on two.
Joined: July 21st, 2010, 7:12 pm Posts: 859 Location: Chatenet, France
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 Re: helicoil spark plug hole
They are only a temporary solution Tim. They are not an answer to a bad thread. Unless the head has sentimental value, throw it away.
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November 22nd, 2010, 5:37 pm |
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Sean
Firing on two.
Joined: April 22nd, 2009, 11:06 pm Posts: 3684 Location: Ecosse
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 Re: helicoil spark plug hole
wind it out and put a new one in
wurth timeserts get a good rep but horrendous costs if you buy the kit
altho ive seen 2 let go
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November 22nd, 2010, 5:38 pm |
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ken
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Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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 Re: helicoil spark plug hole
Tim, looks as though someone's bunged in a 3/4" reach helicoil, rather than the correct 1/2" type. ( That's a surefire way to create a hotspot to encourage pre-ignition, amongst the other reasons why it's a poor job ) It should be possible to wind the coil through 'inwards' by gripping the tail of the spiral of wire. Once it's out, have a look at the thread in the cylinder head to see if it's OK, or not... Taps/threads for helicoils are usually 2mm up on the original size, so I'd guess that would be a 16mm x 1.25. ken
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November 22nd, 2010, 5:42 pm |
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Terry
Firing on two.
Joined: November 4th, 2009, 4:00 pm Posts: 526 Location: Confederate state of South Yorkshire
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 Re: helicoil spark plug hole
Sean wrote: wurth timeserts get a good rep but horrendous costs if you buy the kit
Just for the record .....  .....helicoil on the left,timesert on the right..... [pic from last time this subject cropped up] T.
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November 22nd, 2010, 5:47 pm |
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J-dub
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Joined: April 24th, 2010, 10:01 am Posts: 5733 Location: Location Location
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 Re: helicoil spark plug hole
stripping threads has always confused me so i get the do it to hard and youve stripped the thread bit how could you tell a helicoiled thread without removing the engine to pieces, and how much is it to replace the part (ive forgotten technical names right now which is why im asking) which would need replacing with no thread??
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November 22nd, 2010, 6:22 pm |
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Tim2cv
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Joined: December 8th, 2008, 4:08 pm Posts: 806 Location: Burton-upon-Trent
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 Re: helicoil spark plug hole
3 heads stripped and binned today... all sick in some way or another. One more currently being analyzed but looking like that will go in the bin too! shame as that leaves me one LHS in the shed and one LHS on the bench... not quite a full engine.
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November 23rd, 2010, 5:39 pm |
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Sean
Firing on two.
Joined: April 22nd, 2009, 11:06 pm Posts: 3684 Location: Ecosse
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 Re: helicoil spark plug hole
ooh don't bin them
oil feed can be helicoiled sparkplug holes either helicoiled or welded and re cut
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November 23rd, 2010, 7:38 pm |
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Tim2cv
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Joined: December 8th, 2008, 4:08 pm Posts: 806 Location: Burton-upon-Trent
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 Re: helicoil spark plug hole
Quote: ooh don't bin them
oil feed can be helicoiled sparkplug holes either helicoiled or welded and re cut not by me.... I don't have the tools, machines or skills to do the repairs. The heads aint that good condition generally with chipped fins etc... if they were no longer available then I would be thinking twice ( no I'm not usually one to bin stuff but you cant keep everything!)
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November 23rd, 2010, 8:05 pm |
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