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Tony England
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Joined: April 10th, 2009, 2:54 am Posts: 62 Location: Maldon, Essex
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 Re: Sudo Kubel
Got a bit more done on the Kubel project as well as moving house. Hope to crack on and get it finished very soon.  Engine painted and detailed as well as the inside of the front end. The front section of the chassis has been waxoyled and the front end refitted for the last time (i hope).  Changed the headlamps for these. They look more like the original ones than the 2cv lamps.  Fitted the ECAS inline breather valve and returned it through an adapter i made fitted behind the K/N Filter.  I had to modify the front bumper bar to make way for the number plate.  German style plates which look the nuts but will probably attract more attention from the traffic cops than a naked girl running down the high street, lol  Got this NOTEK convoy light from Poland. It was found on a Russian battlefield and was in very poor condition with no mountings. Ive made new parts for it and fitted it as you can see. Just a little filler work to do and it will look as good as new.  Got a busy week ahead with the house move but will post some more photos asap. 
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March 15th, 2011, 3:51 am |
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Old-Nail
Firing on two.
Joined: October 7th, 2009, 12:10 pm Posts: 2192 Location: NWUK
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 Re: Sudo Kubel
That's going to look fantastic when painted. I see the model that you are working from is in desert colours, are you doing unit insignia too? I see the cross keys on the front but don't recognise that unit?
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March 15th, 2011, 11:34 am |
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Tony England
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Joined: April 10th, 2009, 2:54 am Posts: 62 Location: Maldon, Essex
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 Re: Sudo Kubel
The Kubel will be in the three colour camo pattern as per the Normandie campaign which is a sand base colour with green and redish brown dusted over the top. The Cross Keys is Waffen SS. I hope to give it some unit markings but think it will be something a little less hostile than the SS. Afterall i am hoping to drive it to the world meeting in Salbri and i dont want it to get fire bombed on the way,lol.
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March 16th, 2011, 3:54 pm |
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Old-Nail
Firing on two.
Joined: October 7th, 2009, 12:10 pm Posts: 2192 Location: NWUK
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The trouble with Normandy '44 is that even the Whermacht fighting units contained elements of the Waffen SS to strengthen them. The key symbol is of the 1st SS I doubt many would know the difference these days unless you went the whole hog and put the SS runes on the license plate! It's looking good anyway, excellent work.
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March 16th, 2011, 4:42 pm |
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2cvkeza
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Joined: February 11th, 2010, 11:36 am Posts: 603 Location: Slovenia
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 Re: Sudo Kubel
This car is brilliant DIY work but I dont know why anybody wants to put on it insignia of a dark and evil times ... 
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March 16th, 2011, 8:44 pm |
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EirikJ
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Joined: February 17th, 2009, 8:43 pm Posts: 567 Location: NOrWAY
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2cvkeza wrote: This car is brilliant DIY work but I don't know why anybody wants to put on it insignia of a dark and evil times ...  I kinda agree with you on that. The Nazi's are a terrible chapter in history, and the symbols are still symbols. And history is not just history. I find it hard to believe, but there are actually real living people today, that don't believe that the Holocaust and stuff like that is real, and that it happened But never mind that. The car is great! And it will still be great with all the correct paintings/decorations, and it will be great to see it in Salbris! PS: Why not make a symbol that just LOOKS like one of those correct ones, but instead with a "peace'n love" motif in it? To represent the 2CV-part of the car 
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Old-Nail
Firing on two.
Joined: October 7th, 2009, 12:10 pm Posts: 2192 Location: NWUK
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I agree that the wartime period was a very dark time for all. Terrible times. Safer we just talk about the amazing work done in building this car.
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March 17th, 2011, 12:39 am |
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Tony England
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Joined: April 10th, 2009, 2:54 am Posts: 62 Location: Maldon, Essex
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 Re: Sudo Kubel
Im not into the politics of world war 2 or any war for that matter. For me its just a simple interest in the very many varied german vehicle designs that they produced during the war. Their ability to engineer vehicles which were way ahead of their time and which are still very sort after even today. Unfortunately i will never be able to afford to buy an original VW Kubelwagen but i do not see why i should not be able to create a close copy of one for a fraction of the cost and which will give me many many good times at Military vehicle shows such as the war and peace show in kent and also the many Citroen shows from which the base vehicle comes from. Unit markings or not, it will be a one off which i have made from scratch with my own bare hands, and NO ammount of money can replace the feeling you get when you turn the key for the first time and drive it up the road. Role on May/June when hopefully it should be done and those wheels will turn for the first time.
On the subject of putting on 'similar' unit markings etc, one thing i am considering is to drape a red white and black flag over the bonnet but replacing the 'swastika' with the Citroen chevron logo. The 'nazi' flag was draped over the bonnet of motorised vehicles to identify them from above and to avoid being blown up by 'friendly' fire. I thought it would be an unusual twist to do at shows to see if anyone notices that it is actually a Citroen and not a VW.
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March 17th, 2011, 2:17 am |
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Old-Nail
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Joined: October 7th, 2009, 12:10 pm Posts: 2192 Location: NWUK
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I think it best to remember that nations who now take the moral high ground were then allied to Stalin. No-one came out clean from that war, so the less said on politics the better. Tony England wrote: Unfortunately i will never be able to afford to buy an original VW Kubelwagen but i do not see why i should not be able to create a close copy of one for a fraction of the cost and which will give me many many good times at Military vehicle shows such as the war and peace show in kent and also the many Citroen shows from which the base vehicle comes from. I think it will be quite interesting to see how many (or few) people at Beltring spot the difference. What you have done so far is quite amazing, possibly only the engine sound will give the game away initially. Tony England wrote: it will be a one off which i have made from scratch with my own bare hands, and NO amount of money can replace the feeling you get when you turn the key for the first time and drive it up the road. Absolutely. Considering that you are working 'by eye' as it were what you have achieved so far is incredible. You should be very proud. Tony England wrote: On the subject of putting on 'similar' unit markings etc, one thing i am considering is to drape a red white and black flag over the bonnet but replacing the 'swastika' with the Citroen chevron logo. The 'nazi' flag was draped over the bonnet of motorised vehicles to identify them from above and to avoid being blown up by 'friendly' fire. I thought it would be an unusual twist to do at shows to see if anyone notices that it is actually a Citroen and not a VW. That's an idea. So when the curious ask the flag can be unfurled. So you think it'll be ready for summer then?
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March 17th, 2011, 11:28 am |
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Luke
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Joined: December 9th, 2008, 7:50 pm Posts: 662
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One of those unit shields with an outline of a 2CV engine or something would look quite good, I think. It is after all a replica of a German WWII military vehicle, so would look a bit strange without any markings at all. But that might look right without causing too much offence. The airfix models we give to kids have swastikas on the wings!
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