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 In-car Tunes 
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Post In-car Tunes
Right then, following the tuneage on display at Waggle I want me some more bass. Nowt too loud, just richer.

Talking to Will he suggested a tri-mode / tri-way crossover to allow my stereo amp to run a sub-woofer. But I'm struggling to find one.

According to diagrams in the owners manual, the amp does allow you to run a bridged subwoofer (with crossovers).

Thing is, I'm confused as hell. Can't really get a handle on what I need and have little knowledge of ohms, capacitance etc.

Just want to run a compact sub using the existing kit I've got.

Recommendations of kit / web sites gratefully received. On a vvvvv tight budget, so any second hand kit you've got knocking around would be even better.

Cheers doods!

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May 18th, 2009, 8:54 pm
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Post Re: In-car Tunes
any pictures of the amp you have now? terminals and switches and stuff...

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May 18th, 2009, 11:03 pm
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Post Re: In-car Tunes
what head unit are you using? Mine has an specific sub outlet that looks like a normal audio plug at the back. I don't have a sub atm, got 2 x 5" Vibes fitted in a meter long tube under the back seat. Works a treat... although passengers tell me the back seats vibrates a little ;)


May 18th, 2009, 11:11 pm
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Post Re: In-car Tunes
basically i think tri-mode is to do with ohms and giving you an extra "bridged" channel.
IIRC tri-mode enables 2 speakers and a sub to be ran off the same amp.

I used to run a 4 channel amp with 2 speakers and a sub with 2 channels bridged rather than tri mode. Only because I had the extra channels to play with.

maybe this can help explain?
http://www.caraudiobook.com/car_audio_a ... ifiers.htm

I'll have to have a look at your amp to be sure but I am sure we can hook you up with some tunes!

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Post Re: In-car Tunes
pictures shows both ends of the amp, inputs and outputs.

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you can see wheres its tri-moded to run 3 items off 2 channels.

(I am guessing you have a 2 channel amp BTW?)

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Tim, here's a link to the pdf of the owners manual for my 2 channel sony amp.
http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/2586733111.pdf
It's currently feeding two 6x9's -
Head unit is sony cdx-gt212. It has no seperate sub output.

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May 18th, 2009, 11:24 pm
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seems easy enough...

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Would have to read the rest of the PDF some time but it can be done. Need to check the ohms, Watts etc...

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Post Re: In-car Tunes
Cheers geezer. There is a table of crossover values that means sod all to me.
What are the C1/C2 (capacitor) & L (coil) all about?
How would installing a sub set up like this compare to fitting an active sub d'ya think?

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May 18th, 2009, 11:39 pm
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Post Re: In-car Tunes
Yup tri-mode is pretty simple and it is a feature that is inherent to most two-channel amps on the market, providing you get a crossover to balance the load on the amp and get the right impedance and cutoff frquencies.

Kenwood do (or did) an neat little tri-mode crossover that you just plugged inbetween your amp and speakers, I have one in Mavis. I can't remember the model number but I might dig out some early kenwood catalogue porn and have a look.

However, you do lose a little bit of headroom with tri-mode and when you are giving it some beans (in the beer tent after hours at a camp for example) you do get some clipping unless you ease off the volume for a bit.

TBH though, for the cost of a crossover and passive sub you are well on the way to the price of a little active sub anyway so this might be the way to go. Kenwood, Pioneer, blaupunkt and Alpine all do little under-seat active tubes or boxes which will just plug and play from your head unit, either line-out or speaker-level outputs. Take a look here for info:
http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/enclose ... 9l2cus0b15

The Kenny or the cheaper Pioneer one would complement your set-up well.

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May 18th, 2009, 11:55 pm
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It would appear from my web trawling that those tr-mode crossovers are like hens teeth these days. I do like the idea of the neat underseat options - just gotta find one at a reasonable price (well under £100).

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